From unloved to hard to buy, this amazing watch is 40 years old this year

The Nautilus has a proper name, Nautilus, but people think it’s a good name for the Nautilus, and PP has chosen the right day to do so. Nautilus as a commemoration of its 40th anniversary.

These two pieces are so good-looking that the first thing that struck the rabbit was that they would “sell well”.

▼ The 40mm diameter Ref. 5711/1P, in platinum, is a tribute to the original Nautilus Ref. 3700/1A (“Jumbo”), which was launched in 1976.

Priced at 100,000 Swiss francs, this piece broke my heart when I saw the word platinum.

▼The 44mm Nautilus Ref. 5976/1G Flyback Chronograph in white gold. It was inspired by a model made by PP in 2006, the 30th anniversary of the Nautilus. Very much in keeping with the aesthetic,AAAA Replica Watches UK both watches have blue dials (blue dials are very hot on the market at the moment) and also have recessed anniversary markers.

At 85,000 Swiss francs, with a comparison of 100,000, it instantly felt like a good price.

Although when these two watches first appeared, there was much discussion among the rabbit fan base as to whether the dial markings were a little too busy, especially for the complex Ref. 5976/1G, which seemed a little constricted. But of course, the limited edition and the fact that it was a particularly popular Nautilus did not stop them from selling well.

Sometimes it sells for three dollars a day.

To say that they sell well is not, of course, a matter of speculation. According to Rabbit’s reliable information, the platinum version is limited to 700 pieces and the steel version to 1,300 pieces, and the Chinese market is currently only getting a few dozen pieces, no more than two figures. The ration of guests arriving at the shop is said to be in the dozens already, with queues of guests already exceeding the number of watches. “One guest wanted both pieces, so we had to ask him to bear the pain and choose one.” The staff informed privately.

▼In addition to the limited editions, the regular Nautilus is also going well, with the best selling 3 pieces a day with no problem, and the counter is able to sell as soon as new stock is available. Steel models, in particular, are in short supply. For example, the rabbit has been pushing the 5711 and 5712 blue face, steel models, which are basically unavailable in shops. In fact, there have been a few occasions when PP’s MM has politely suggested to me that “we don’t need to push 5711 and 5712 because they are really hard to get”, but in Bunny’s opinion, there is no conflict between being able to get them and whether they are worth recommending or not – you need to wait for the good ones, so let’s just see if they are available. We’ll see if it’s a good deal.

These are the 5711/1A (left) and 5712/1A (right), both from 2006

▼Rabbit has given you tips in previous articles on how to find the hardest Nautilus to get – intercepting it in the middle of the process. Because a customer can’t be the first to pick it up in shop after booking, this is the perfect time for you to take the opportunity to ask for it, and the shop assistant can’t refuse and has to bring it out even if it’s hidden in the cellar. This is when the order is placed, it is yours.

There is no way out, good things are scarce, it is true love to make some tactics.

The real bull is not afraid to question

We’ve all heard the story of the Nautilus. Around 2006, when PP’s Shanghai shop was still on Bund 18, the Nautilus was basically untouched, and the salesman tried his best to put it in the most prominent place, but no one bought it. In the end, a mysterious caller from Hong Kong happily bought both of them.

This is a 3710/1A, the first Nautilus complication to come out in 1998.

At that time, the Nautilus was already a sought-after item in Europe and the United States, but the Chinese market was relatively slow to respond and its acceptance of the watch was different.

It is time to talk about the origins of the Nautilus.

In 1976, the post-war gloom was slowly dissipating and people were looking for things that would please them. The computer industry was just emerging and entrepreneurs who started with nothing were being revered. It was a time when everyone believed in working for a better life, rather than living for a better job (as it should have been all along, in fact).

The Nautilus Nautilus came from the hand of Philippe Stern, whose grandfather, Charles Stern, bought Patek Philippe with his brother Jean Stern back in 1932. 1976 saw Henri Stern at the head of the family business, while his son Philippe had joined the company as an executive, ready to take over the company in the future.

▼ So Fili launched a very special model at this particular time – the first sports watch in Patek Philippe’s 137-year history, the Ref. 3700/1A, which was a collaboration with Gérald Genta (known as the greatest watchmaker of the 20th century). The watch was questioned because it was made of steel (gold had been popular before), with the slogan “perhaps the most expensive steel watch in the world”, and because of its odd shape.

This was the first 3700/1A, and the Nautilus that first appeared was water-resistant to 120 metres, which was considered first-class at the time.

Today, the PP steel model’s status is very strong on the second-hand market, and it is clear that time will tell.

▼Rabbit also heard a story about a 3712 (the predecessor of the 5712) that was sold in PP’s Shanghai shop around 2005.

The customer picked and chose, but finally bought the 3712 as if he wasn’t particularly happy with it (he couldn’t bear the thought of its odd shape), and the watch was discontinued the following year. “Now it seems to be a treasure, but unfortunately we haven’t been in touch with him since.” PP’s friend said.

2006 marked the 30th anniversary of the Nautilus, and the 5980/1A was the first Nautilus chronograph, the big release of the year.

Why was the Nautilus a hit?

Some say it was following the trend, but I’m afraid it’s not that simple.

“The Nautilus has been selling well for just a few years now and suddenly a lot of people are asking for it. We’ve talked to some of our customers and it’s actually because they’ve grown up. 11 years on, many people’s first PPs were round watches and now of course they want to try other types, so the Nautilus is often the second or third watch. In addition, now the post-80s are fast becoming the main watch buyers, more than 40% of them have a newer trendy concept and prefer individual models.” PP’s staff are also very good at their analytical work, “There is another customer I remember particularly well, after comparing the steel models of various brands in the same price range, he was torn for about six months and finally told me a very surprising reason when he bought the Nautilus ‘because it doesn’t stick to the sweaty hair on his hand’ ……”

Comfortable, most irrefutable.

Dong Dong, who has bought eight Nautilus pieces so far (people are the type who hate new things and will pass on old ones when they see new ones, but it turns out that Nautilus is easy to pass on), told Rabbit that he bought his first Nautilus 3800. around 2005, both because he admired Zonda’s name and because he really thought it looked good.

The 3800/1A (left) was born in 1981 and the 3800/1JA (right) was a model that came out in 1996.

“Actually, the most important reason today seems to be that it is easy to match and suitable for sports, and these days I like sports watches, which are also convenient.” Dong says.

Sport itself is a trend in the fashion world, imagine sneakers can step into a haute couture show, sweatshirts and shoulder bags are almost standard, you wouldn’t wear the most classic round watch forever in a suit, right?

In retrospect, the Nautilus advertising slogan was visionary: “Whether it’s a diving suit or an evening gown, Nautilus can match it.”
In fact 40 years may not be long for a brand, but for a collection to last 33 watches, to change from generation to generation, and to have the courage to voluntarily discontinue a best-selling model that is still followed by watch lovers today, is not easy. I’ve expressed my love for the Nautilus, especially the 5712 blue face, many times, but so far it seems I probably won’t get to wear it – after all, fit is the first thing that matters when buying a watch, but it still doesn’t stop me from enthusiastically recommending it to everyone time and time again.

The feeling of buying a watch ultimately comes down to money, and while some people may have had a painful experience, others still miss it. The most sophisticated collector’s recommendation can never replace your own favourite, but it never hurts to hear from someone who has spent money on an experience that is really worth it.

Nautilus isn’t cheap, with a domestic price tag starting at over 180,000, but it’s better to have a medium to long-term goal in life than to aimlessly buy a bunch of things that are fleeting.

The rabbit stayed up all night to finish this issue, not exactly a lot of work, but certainly a lot of love.

180,000 for a modified Rolex, only to find you’ve stepped in a hole!

The reason for this is that a while ago, a friend of mine, Fei, found a rabbit and came up with a big picture, saying that he had just recently received a Rolex, a Paul Newman plate.

I saw the picture and had a feeling in my heart, but after all, I wasn’t particularly familiar with it at the time, so I didn’t dare to say anything, so I asked around and found out that I had “inadvertently” bought a modified Rolex, which came from a relatively famous foreign modification factory called Blaken.

When I asked the price, it was over 180,000. The original form of this watch is the most common steel model of the Ditonnas, and the modification of the Paul Newman plate was done on the basis of this watch.

By the way, I’d like to give you a glimpse of what a real Paul Newman Ditoner looks like (thanks to King Rao of Hangzhou for lending me the picture, but of course the picture is so crummy, it had to be taken by me).

Little Fei said she was attracted by this Paul Newman dial and liked it so much that she took the initiative to ask a rep who was still relatively familiar with it in her circle of friends: “I’ve actually bought a few watches from him, so I’m not a stranger, fake iwc watches and I did take the initiative to ask for this watch. I didn’t know much about it at the time, so I bought it because I thought it looked good. But I didn’t even know it was a conversion watch before, and the other person kept telling me that it was a limited edition and very rare.”

The most crucial issue came up, that is, the modified Rolex lost the Rolex after-sales qualification, which means that if there is any problem, the Rolex service will not be responsible.

When Fei asked the agent why he hadn’t been informed in advance, he was told that the other party still insisted on the argument that “a modified watch is worth more”.

In fact, I’m sure we’re all familiar with the idea of refitting Rolexes, especially if you’re a newcomer. Some of the more famous refitters include Blaken, Bamford, ProjectX Designs and Titan Black, with the first two being particularly well known.

In fact, there are also factories in China that do refitted Rolexes, basically concentrated in the Pearl River Delta region, but there is a difference. Generally, the big foreign factories only do refitting of brand new Rolex watches and do not accept second-hand watches, while the small domestic factories are free to do so.

In principle, refitting a Rolex is more expensive than buying a new Rolex, for example, the Explorer 1, more than 30,000 before refitting, and some can sell for 60,000 to 70,000 after refitting. Some people think this is a business opportunity, so some domestic plating factories take on such work. It is said that some owners of second-hand shops sometimes receive Rolexes of poorer quality and may take them for direct modification.

There is a market for modified watches and there is no denying that there is indeed a group of people who voluntarily take their watches to be modified for fun. For example, there are veteran watch enthusiasts in the Rabbit Group who have taken their Green Sailor to have it refitted, and this is a choice made with all knowledge.

However, there are quite a few newbies who have also been punked out like Xiao Fei. “In fact, if the agent told me all the circumstances beforehand, including the fact that it was modified and that it could no longer go into the Lau suit, I would have considered whether to buy it or not in the end. In fact, the watch still looked good on me, but I was naturally unhappy to buy it because I didn’t know about it.” Little Fei said.

Most of them told me that they would “inform the customer of the actual situation and let them decide whether to buy or not”, but I did come across people who didn’t know anything about selling. “I’m only responsible for selling, I don’t know much else, we have a professional master in charge of after-sales.” This was the reply of a sales representative shop, so you can imagine that there should be quite a few people who are pitched.

Of course there is also a part that just knows but doesn’t say, bullying inexperienced newcomers.

In addition to modifications, there is also the word “post-drill”, which is often seen on the most common steel watches, inlaid with diamonds to attract customers at a much cheaper price than the original diamonds, similar to “80,000 to wear hundreds of thousands of shiny” and so on, to meet the psychology of some people to spend less and spend more. The latter is a great way to satisfy the desire of some people to spend less and make more. But also, after the diamond for Rolex, also lost the official after-sales qualification, which, I’m afraid, a lot of the agency will not say.

“Generally after the diamond of the table, will choose more basic models, such as quartz watches or the simplest automatic movement, so that the maintenance pressure is small, the shop master can also repair.” A second-hand shop salesman informed privately.

After all, the diamond on the watch is said to be the most expensive diamond, for the “after diamond” business, the profit margin is quite large. Another watch enthusiast told Bunny yesterday that someone had bought a new rainbow-ring yacht in Hong Kong for $300,000. The watch was priced at 510,000 on the mainland, and even in Hong Kong, you can’t take it for 300,000, no doubt about the rear diamond (and it’s a fake sold as the real thing, the average rear diamond is estimated at 150,000), but unfortunately the person who bought it had no idea.

There is one thing, however, as far as refitted watches are concerned, the only one that is officially authorised at the moment is Zenith, which has a partnership agreement with Bamford in the UK and is a legitimate refitter. Other than that, it’s important to be cautious, especially for newcomers, and to consider whether you’re comfortable with it first.

In fact, after reading Little Fei’s story, the rabbit realised that there is too much information asymmetry about the watches themselves, plus there are too many channels to buy watches nowadays (the only one that doesn’t like to go to domestic boutiques), which leads to many pitfalls.

The other day I read a news story about a man who checked out of a hotel in Hangzhou after staying there and remembered that a Patek Philippe of more than 80,000 yuan had been left on the hotel bed, but the hotel staff claimed not to have seen it. It was simple social news, but when the man showed his proof of purchase, the rabbit was dumbfounded.

Isn’t this one of the legendary three pieces of fake watches?

The man said his watch was brought back from Germany by a friend (in fact, those who know the brand will know that Patek Philippe simply does not have a men’s watch at the price of 80,000, and this watch is fake at first glance, so I won’t put up a picture), another story of a pitted acquaintance.

If he hadn’t lost his watch, I guess he would never have known he was buying a fake watch (and if he hadn’t seen the rabbit article, he might not have known it so far either).

Generally speaking, if you see the following certificate in a watch you’re buying, it says it all: it’s a definite fake. It’s like a tailor-made “I’m a fake watch” certificate.

But because too many people never shop and don’t know anything about the brand before they buy, it’s inevitable that they will be fooled.

The rabbit has collected a few certificates from brands as a simple reference for future watch purchases.

First of all, Patek Philippe has a “birth certificate”, on which the name of the purchaser is written and your purchase record is kept in the shop. It also gives you priority to buy certain watches at a certain stage through accumulation. Of course, if you’re looking for a reseller, your name is basically left to others, so you can understand why many resellers buy directly as VIPs.

Vacheron Constantin has more than one type of certificate. This is a limited edition, for example, and in addition to the specially printed watch certificate, there are also certificates for Geneva and chronometer certification.

If there is only the Geneva Seal, there is a handwritten Geneva Seal certificate in addition to the watch certificate (the white paper is the watch certificate and the other is the Geneva Seal certificate).

Of course, the rabbit cannot post all the certificates of all brands today, just for your reference when buying these popular brands.

Finally, the most sincere advice is.

1, within the right price difference, try to buy from domestic brand shops, that is the best guarantee.

2, encounter too cheap things, first ask yourself, the pie in the sky, why so easily to your turn, head clearer, let reason to decide, more questions are not ashamed.

3, some people say why you say a glance fake, I can not see, no other reason is to see too little. If you shop around more and touch the real thing before you buy, you won’t be easily cheated.

4, the watch is for their own buy, everything pretend to be a facade, the last will be the heart dripping blood ah.

There’s really no shortcut to buying something, just watch more and play more, ask more professionals and watchmakers who have spent money on tuition, and take fewer detours. If you have any questions about buying a watch, please feel free to leave a message to Bunny in the background, I’ll tell you everything.